tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3712012.post3416164517173423287..comments2023-07-04T10:10:25.205-04:00Comments on Apologia: Praise Palin while you canWilliam Lusehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15928946919078483848noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3712012.post-68088261411401459322008-09-16T11:34:00.000-04:002008-09-16T11:34:00.000-04:00If I am not mistaken, the Hyde Amendment was chang...If I am not mistaken, the Hyde Amendment was changed during the Clinton administration so that surgical abortions are now federally funded in cases of rape and incest. I don't know what proof is required to get that funding, but Bush made no move to change it back. I often think that we should keep score better when conservative presidents don't even try to change back the evil moves of their predecessors. It would at a minimum have been possible to ask Congress (esp. when Congress was Republican controlled) to put the Hyde Amendment back to its original form. It's that old ratchet effect again.Lydia McGrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423567323116960820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3712012.post-67399360031119022682008-09-16T01:20:00.000-04:002008-09-16T01:20:00.000-04:00It's also an offense against the obligation to thi...It's also an offense against the obligation to think, to draw the lines that make necessary connections: You can't get to the preemie without going through the embryo. They're using that lack of form to disguise the nature of what they're really doing, and hoping our consciences won't notice. It's an attempt to make what they're doing seem reasonable, when it's in fact the death of reason.<BR/><BR/>There's another thing, too. Abortion law is founded on a notion of liberty, the woman's right to choose. The law compels no one to make that choice. Federal funding of ESCR, however, will bear the endorsement of the other two branches of government, who will now offer not merely a right to choose, but positively recommend this particular form of killing. They will be paying people to do it. A particular class of the unborn will now be made available for assembly line slaughter. I suppose the researchers will have to seek the permission of the embryo's parents. Many of them will say no unless...you pay them. Your tax dollars at work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3712012.post-44515605483421911532008-09-15T20:28:00.000-04:002008-09-15T20:28:00.000-04:00If he really thinks it is a murder of equal gravit...<I>If he really thinks it is a murder of equal gravity, ...</I><BR/><BR/>I'd suggest that it may be murder of an even greater gravity. Evangelium Vitae makes the point that abortion (of which ESCR is a particular kind) is an especially grave form of murder, because the child killed doesn't even have the sentimental defenses of her tears and struggle. In ESCR the child in addition doesn't even have the defense of a clear human form. That results in this cavalier attitude, which is an <I>additional</I> offense in justice agains the children murdered in this manner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3712012.post-70284641041670412832008-09-15T16:58:00.000-04:002008-09-15T16:58:00.000-04:00I'll think about editing it out. Frank ought to re...I'll think about editing it out. Frank ought to read more carefully.<BR/><BR/>But when he said that, it struck me that ESCR as the murder of innocents was not on his radar. The reason I kept it in is that his subsequent comparison of McCain's position with that of Obama's on "preemies" confirmed my suspicion. If he really thinks it is a murder of equal gravity, I'd kind of like to hear him say it. And if he does, I'd also like to hear how justifies voting for McCain. I don't get the sense that he's taking Zippy's objections seriously, but rather dismissing him. Maybe Zippy's wrong. All right, show me how.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3712012.post-2067704499755484672008-09-15T15:42:00.000-04:002008-09-15T15:42:00.000-04:00I predicted that she would be compromised by being...I predicted that she would be compromised by being his running mate, but I didn't think it would start showing this *soon*. I'm sort of stunned.<BR/><BR/>Brief note out of fairness to Frank Beckwith: It looks like he way overinterpreted Zippy's post (Frank said that he did when I drew his attention to the misunderstanding) and thought Zippy was talking about war instead of ESCR. So when Zippy mentioned the intentional murdering of innocen people and Frank called this "over the top," that was a result of a misunderstanding, not of Frank's saying he doesn't think ESCR is the intentional murdering of innocent people. I assume he would agree that it is.Lydia McGrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423567323116960820noreply@blogger.com